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Subject Re: Allow pilot to change declared task in the ai
Thread Number 5 of 6 in thread
Author John Bridge
Posted 16-Sep-16 10:21:00
? Hi All,

As National Ladder Steward I am remaining strictly neutral on this so I am limiting my input to a few facts.

When I took over the stewardship, sometime during the last century, the requirement was for all declarations to be made before launch. During seasons 2008 and 2009, post-launch, pre-start declarations were adopted on a trial basis.

In 2010 this was reversed following an on-line survey that was held at the end of the previous season (see )

At this time a concession was introduced by allowing up to six club tasks, available to all pilots, which could be flown without pre-launch declarations but which would be scored as declared. Additionally. for the 2014 season, the declaration factor for undeclared flights was raised from 0.6 to 0.75.

I suppose this issue depends on whether or not you feel that a pilot's ability to judge, before launch, where the good weather will be is worthy of some sort of reward. Some pilots are very good at this, while others follow (in more senses than one).

Other issues are that some pilots would be disadvantaged by being unable to make in-flight declarations also, as has already been mentioned elsewhere, the Sporting Code dictates that pre-launch declarations are required, so anyone making a flight under those rules would be disadvantaged.

More than 630 pilots have contributed cross-country flights to this season's Ladder. I am quite happy to change the rules if a significant number (whatever that means) of pilots make their views known. A lack of response will indicate satisfaction with the current rules.

Over to you!


## On 15-Sep-16 14:08:00 George Knight wrote:

In principle there seems to be little difference between doing the
declaration on the ground or in the air, however, the ladder does give a
big bonus of 33% more points for declared flights as against undeclared so
it gives a significant points advantage to a pilot who re-declares in the
air, after having perhaps already started his original task and then come
back to try something else wihout landing.

Why do I care?

My flight computer was designed for the existing rules and will not allow
me to re-declare whilst in the air so I would be at a disadvantage if
others can re-declare in the air. (Not that it makes much difference since
I'm never placed very high on the ladder - but that's another story!)

Presumably the 33% extra points for declaring before launching is to reward
pilots who are able to forecast better the conditions they will encounter
during their flight. If one can make multiple declarations whilst in the
air the real issue seems to be that the bonus for a pre-declared task
should be reduced to perhaps 10% or less once it is no longer pre-declared
but during-declared.

Why is a pre-flight declaration historically given this very large bonus on
the ladder? Not everybody is, or wants to be, a met. expert.

George Knight


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